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Aviva Patt's avatar

I can sympathize with the anti-abortion folk who honestly believe a fetus is the equivalent of a child. The idea of abortion is horrific in those circumstances. But that is their religious belief and it is the antithesis of democracy that everyone must follow the religious beliefs of others and that the government punishes those who do not. There is no scientific or medical definition of when an organism becomes a human being, because that is a religious or philosophical question. So everyone should be able to follow their own consciences.

At no time in this country prior to the backlash against Roe, nor at any time since at least the mid 16th century, did our statutes or English common law (upon which our law is based) recognize fetuses as persons whose lives were the equivalent of a born person. Before "quickening" - the point (around 4 months) where a fetus's movements in the womb can be ascertained, a woman was free to to terminate her pregnancy. Even after that point, if anyone else caused her to miscarry or abort, it was considered a crime of violence against the WOMAN, not the fetus. So all this blather about our long tradition of protecting "innocent human life" is nonsense. When Alito quoted Matthew Hale, he failed to mention that Hale's opinion was CONTRARY to the law at the time. It's like arguing a case by quoting the dissent in a previous one. The US has no "tradition" of considering fetuses human beings with the same rights as born persons.

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Mary Hansen's avatar

Irv, Thank you for a unique and balanced response on this issue that separates many of us into morality police forcing a belief in the sacredness of life onto others. If we truly believe that, than we must believe in the oneness of humanity and consider everyone as part of our human family, no matter how old they are. Sadly, there are too many of us who only see humanity in members of our tribe with blindness to those outside of it.

"Yes and" is the response we need to have on abortion. Both entities, embryonic human and mother, are vital, and both need support, no matter what their tribe. In the Baha'i Faith, we are generally against killing. However, if there is a compelling reason to consider abortion, that decision should be between the woman and her doctor and their Creator, rather than crusaders who really seem to want to punish women for having sexual relations, with no responsibility for the men involved.

We the people of the world need to support all parents and we need to educate all children well for the benefit of society. We need to make sure that all people live in a safe place, with healthy food, water and loving support. When we believe that this is God's plan as seen in the Golden Rule found in all religions, the steps to make it happen emerge.

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